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« on: May 20, 2006, 12:13:29 pm »

Hey, I am thinking about having my personal server to have unlimited webspace and controll over the system settings etc Smiley
If I want to have my own server, what would I need then?

There are several options I know of, such as downloading the Apache software, or buying some sort of servermachine that acs as a Plug and Play device. What options do I have if I want to have my own server free or as cheap as possible, without my computer to be supposed to stay turned on day and night? Í also heard that server software would need a special hard drive? Can anyone give me any more details about all this? Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2006, 08:17:01 pm »

well, if you host your website on your own server and you want that page to be availabe 24/7, then the server has to be on 24/7. what defines a server is not really its hardware but its software. for webserver the popular way is usually some sort of linux plus apache plus php and other stuff you want. you can easily buy like a really cheap computer for 200-300 dollars (canadian, don't know the prices at your location) and it'll do just fine unless you have A LOT of visitors. you don't really need a decked out dual socket server with 15k scsi harddrives and 4gigs of ram for serving a website. for a webserver you'll also need a pretty good internet connection. if you are not sure about stuff, it's probably easier and more reliable to just get some paid hosting if you are not satisfied with your current account.  
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2006, 07:53:59 am »

I am not unsatisfied with my account, I like Dhost. It is one of the better hosts actually, webhosts rarely support 100MB adfree space with even PHP and MySQL support. But still, if I would have controll over my own directory, as if it was on my own computer, I would not need an FTP program for instance Smiley Just drag and drop lol :lol: Also there won't be any other accounts on the same server. So say Dhost has 100 GB of webspace, for dosens of accounts, then if I had my own server I would have 100 GB myself Cheesy There will be no issue in having enough space for all my movies. And if I want to, I would be able to install more software or big applications Smiley Of course all this can also be done at paid hosts, but then again, if I pay for a host I can buy me my own host for the same expense (but one time only)

On the other hand, if I had my own host I should manage all the php and apache settings, also those for mysql, manage security settings and so on. Some time ago I tried to set up an Apache installation on my computer, and it worked instandly for files on my own computer, that was cool. But PHP didn't work, and if I surfed to the file, it couln't find it (via http protocol). Maybe that was due to my router, or the fact some settings were incorrect. Without help I would not be able to set up a correct server so I'll stick with Dhost as a lovely webhost. It would just be wonderful if I could do everything myself, such as also support my OWN domain Cheesy

So, for the information and the thought I might buy my own server in future, are there any devices with advanced harddrives as you described above, that are made for being a server, that also can be connected to a computer just like a USB connected printer?
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2006, 04:58:53 pm »

There are no advanced (cheap) hard drives that can be connected trough USB or Firewire. They are mainly connected trough SCSI.

To connect your own PC trough HTTP you'll have to set up a (NAT) virtual private server in your router. If you've done that just go to your IP like http://1.1.1.1 and you'll see it works.

Mine server has costed €250 and is good enough to serve as an 'advanced' web server. It's a 2 GHz AMD with 1 GB of RAM and 120 GB hd. (try beating that with paid hosting Cheesy). It runs Linux with apache.

To install the linux stuff just follow a tutorial like http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialWebSiteConfig.html it's really easy.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2006, 06:29:03 pm »

Cool Tongue And what is less expensive, an additional (special) harddrive (do I need adjustments to my motherboard for it?), or a bought personal server? Wait Tongue

Waarom engels als nederlands ook kan? :lol: Ik hoorde van een kennis dat als ik een speciale harde schijf wou hebben voor een eigen server, dat die dan anders werkt dan je normale schijf. Hij maakt minder toeren ofzo, dat die daarom zo veel sneller is en dergelijke, en dat ik daar een speciale aanpassing voor mijn moederbord nodig heb. Klopt dat? Of is de harde schijf van een gewone pc ook aardig geschikt voor server? Toen vroeg ik hem of ik anders een speciaal apparaat als server kon kopen dat geen aanpassingen aan de pc nodig heeft, maar wel als verwisselbare schijf aangesloten kon worden (net als een all-in-one usb printer). Die zijn er volgens die kennis, maar wist er verder niet veel vanaf, jij wel?

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 05:40:48 am »

Special hd are really expensive, the cost arround €250 for 120 GB but for normal home server use you don't need them just a regular hd will do.
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SCSI hd moeten via z'on aansluiting zit meestal niet standaart op je moederbord en zal je dus een PCI uitbreidingskaart voor moeten hebben. En dan kom je voor een beetje hd al aan de €250. Maar voor jouw doel is een gewone hd (SATA of IDE) voldende. z'on dure heb je pas nodig als je honderde accounts host met duizende bezoekers per dag.

Wat bedoel je met speciaal apparaat? een externe schijf of een hele pc?
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 05:46:02 am »

-Explanation of what I mean with "special device"-
Een apparaat net als een printer die je via usb aansluit Tongue Ik weet ook niet precies, want ik weet niet of het bestaat. Maar in ieder geval iets dat als verwisselbare schijf wordt gezien, denk aan een memorystick, en dat als zodanig kan worden aangesloten Smiley Zodat ik op die manier gemakkelijk bestanden kan overplaatsen. Maar dat het apparaat ook onafhankelijk van de computer kan werken en ik de pc niet aan hoef te zetten om de server te kunnen draaien Wink
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2008, 01:41:10 pm »

u3g usb stick is in staat apache te draaien erop en kun je op elke pc aansluiten. Je hebt echt geen scusi nodig voor webhosting. Zeker niet voor mass storage. Daar is scusi al helemaal niet voor bedoelt maar gewoon voor snelheid. En ja scusi drives zijn nodig op shared hosting accounts die fking oversellen zoals hier op dhost alles volproppen. Maarum alleen voor  site heb je echt geen scusi nodig.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 05:42:56 am »

You could purchase a Mac and tweak Leopard's settings to host your own site.
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